1. My father, may Allah grant him mercy, said: We were told by Ahmad bin Idrees, from Ahmad bin Abdullah, from Muhammed bin ‘Isa al-Yaqteeni, from al-Mushriqi, from Hamza bin Rabee’, from those he mentioned, that he said:

I was in the congregation of Abu Ja’far, peace be upon him, and then ‘Amru bin Ubayd entered into him, and he said to him: May I be sacrificed for you, the saying of Allah: «And he upon whom descends My wrath, has indeed fallen» (20:82). What is that wrath? Then Abu Ja’far, peace be upon him, said: It is the punishment, O Amru. Verily, he who claims that Allah, Exalted and Glorious is He, has moved from one thing to another thing, he has indeed described him with the characteristic of a created, for indeed, Allah, Exalted and Glorious is He, is not incited by anything nor changed by anything.