41. The Issue that Completes Mahr (dower)

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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ حَمَّادٍ عَنِ الْحَلَبِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) فِي رَجُلٍ دَخَلَ بِامْرَأَةٍ قَالَ إِذَا الْتَقَى الْخِتَانَانِ وَجَبَ الْمَهْرُ وَ الْعِدَّةُ .


1. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘ Umayr from Hammad from al-Halabiy who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘ Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the case of a man who has married a woman and has gone to bed with her. He (the Imam) said, ‘When the two organs meet mahr (dower) become obligatory.’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: حسن - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (21/185)



عَلِيٌّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ حَفْصِ بْنِ الْبَخْتَرِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ إِذَا الْتَقَى الْخِتَانَانِ وَجَبَ الْمَهْرُ وَ الْعِدَّةُ وَ الْغُسْلُ .


2. Ali has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from Hafs ibn al-Bakhtariy who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, has said, ‘When the two organs meet, mahr (dower), waiting period and Ghusl (bath) become obligatory.’”


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عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ زِيَادٍ وَ عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ جَمِيعاً عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي نَصْرٍ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ سِرْحَانَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ إِذَا أَوْلَجَهُ فَقَدْ وَجَبَ الْغُسْلُ وَ الْجَلْدُ وَ الرَّجْمُ وَ وَجَبَ الْمَهْرُ .


3. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad and Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from all ibn abu Nasr from Dawud ibn Sarhan who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, has said, ‘If he makes it penetrate, Ghusl (bath), whipping, stoning and mahr (dower) become obligatory.’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: حسن كالصحيح - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (21/185)



مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ مَحْبُوبٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ مُلَامَسَةُ النِّسَاءِ هُوَ الْإِيقَاعُ بِهِنَّ .


4. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Mahbub from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sinan who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, has said, ‘Touching women is falling upon them (going to bed with them).”’


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: صحيح - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (1/185)



مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ فَضَّالٍ عَنْ يُونُسَ بْنِ يَعْقُوبَ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) عَنْ رَجُلٍ تَزَوَّجَ امْرَأَةً فَأَغْلَقَ بَاباً وَ أَرْخَى سِتْراً وَ لَمَسَ وَ قَبَّلَ ثُمَّ طَلَّقَهَا أَ يُوجِبُ عَلَيْهِ الصَّدَاقَ قَالَ لَا يُوجِبُ عَلَيْهِ الصَّدَاقَ إِلَّا الْوِقَاعُ.


5. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Faddal from Yunus ibn Ya‘qub who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the case of a man who marries a woman, closes the door, pulls the curtains, touches and kisses her; then divorces; if mahr (dower) becomes obligatory. He (the Imam) said, ‘Mahr (dower) becomes obligatory only after sexual intercourse.’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: موثق - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (1/186)



مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ مَحْبُوبٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ سَأَلَهُ أَبِي وَ أَنَا حَاضِرٌ عَنْ رَجُلٍ تَزَوَّجَ امْرَأَةً فَأُدْخِلَتْ عَلَيْهِ فَلَمْ يَمَسَّهَا وَ لَمْ يَصِلْ إِلَيْهَا حَتَّى طَلَّقَهَا هَلْ عَلَيْهَا عِدَّةٌ مِنْهُ فَقَالَ إِنَّمَا الْعِدَّةُ مِنَ الْمَاءِ قِيلَ لَهُ فَإِنْ كَانَ وَاقَعَهَا فِي الْفَرْجِ وَ لَمْ يُنْزِلْ فَقَالَ إِذَا أَدْخَلَهُ وَجَبَ الْغُسْلُ وَ الْمَهْرُ وَ الْعِدَّةُ .


6. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Mahbub from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sinan who has said the following: “Abu Basir once asked abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, when I was also there, about a man who marries a woman, goes to her but does not touch or approach her before divorcing if she needs to count the waiting period. He (the Imam) said, ‘Waiting period is because of fluid discharge.’ It was asked, ‘What happens if there is sexual intercourse without semen discharge?’ He (the Imam) said, ‘If he inserts it, Ghusl (bath), mahr (dower) and waiting period become obligatory.’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: صحيح - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (1/186)



عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ حَمَّادٍ عَنِ الْحَلَبِيِّ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ سَأَلْتُهُ عَنِ الرَّجُلِ يُطَلِّقُ الْمَرْأَةَ وَ قَدْ مَسَّ كُلَّ شَيْ‏ءٍ مِنْهَا إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَمْ يُجَامِعْهَا أَ لَهَا عِدَّةٌ فَقَالَ ابْتُلِيَ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ ( عليه السلام ) بِذَلِكَ فَقَالَ لَهُ أَبُوهُ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحُسَيْنِ ( عليه السلام ) إِذَا أَغْلَقَ بَاباً وَ أَرْخَى سِتْراً وَجَبَ الْمَهْرُ وَ الْعِدَّةُ .


7. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from ibn abu ‘Umayr from Hammad from al-Halabiy who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the case of a man who divorces a woman whom he has touched without sexual intercourse if waiting period is obligatory. He (the Imam) said, ‘Abu Ja‘far, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, had faced such a condition and his father, Ali ibn al-Husayn, ‘Alayhi al- Salam, said, ‘When doors are closed and curtains are pulled down mahr (dower) and waiting period become necessary.’” Ibn abu ‘Umayr has said that Ahadith are not the same about this issue if mahr (dower) is complete or not. Certain ones have said that it is one-half of mahr (dower) and it means that a judge rules according to apparent condition of a case. When the doors are closed and curtains are pulled down mahr (dower) becomes obligatory. It is up to her when she knows before Allah that he has not touched then she deserves only half of mahr (dower).’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: حسن - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (21/186)



عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ سَهْلِ بْنِ زِيَادٍ عَنِ ابْنِ رِئَابٍ عَنْ أَبِي بَصِيرٍ قَالَ قُلْتُ لِأَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) الرَّجُلُ يَتَزَوَّجُ الْمَرْأَةَ فَيُرْخِي عَلَيْهِ وَ عَلَيْهَا السِّتْرَ وَ يُغْلِقُ الْبَابَ ثُمَّ يُطَلِّقُهَا فَتُسْأَلُ الْمَرْأَةُ هَلْ أَتَاكِ فَتَقُولُ مَا أَتَانِي وَ يُسْأَلُ هُوَ هَلْ أَتَيْتَهَا فَيَقُولُ لَمْ آتِهَا فَقَالَ لَا يُصَدَّقَانِ وَ ذَلِكَ أَنَّهَا تُرِيدُ أَنْ تَدْفَعَ الْعِدَّةَ عَنْ نَفْسِهَا وَ يُرِيدُ هُوَ أَنْ يَدْفَعَ الْمَهْرَ عَنْ نَفْسِهِ . يَعْنِي إِذَا كَانَا مُتَّهَمَيْنِ


8. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from ibn Ri’ab from abu Basir who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘ Abd Allah, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the case of a man who marries a woman; then pulls the curtains down upon himself and on her and closes the door; then divorces her and the woman is asked, ‘Did he come to you? She says, ‘No, he did not come to me.’ He then is asked, ‘Did you go to her?’ He says, ‘No, I did go to her.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘Their words are not accepted because she wants to avoid waiting period from herself and he wants to avoid mahr (dower), meaning when they are accused.’”


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Allamah Baqir al-Majlisi: ضعيف على المشهور - Mir‘at al ‘Uqul Fi Sharh Akhbar Al al Rasul (1/187)



أَبُو عَلِيٍّ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الْجَبَّارِ عَنْ صَفْوَانَ عَنْ إِسْحَاقَ بْنِ عَمَّارٍ عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ سَأَلْتُهُ عَنِ الرَّجُلِ يَتَزَوَّجُ الْمَرْأَةَ فَيَدْخُلُ بِهَا فَيُغْلِقُ بَاباً وَ يُرْخِي سِتْراً عَلَيْهَا وَ يَزْعُمُ أَنَّهُ لَمْ يَمَسَّهَا وَ تُصَدِّقُهُ هِيَ بِذَلِكَ عَلَيْهَا عِدَّةٌ قَالَ لَا قُلْتُ فَإِنَّهُ شَيْ‏ءٌ دُونَ شَيْ‏ءٍ قَالَ إِنْ أَخْرَجَ الْمَاءَ اعْتَدَّتْ . يَعْنِي إِذَا كَانَا مَأْمُونَيْنِ صُدِّقَا .


9. Abu Ali al-Ash‘ariy has narrated from Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Jabbar from Safwan from Ishaq ibn ‘Ammar who has said the following: “I once asked abu al-Hassan, ‘Alayhi al-Salam, about the case of a man who marries a woman then goes to her, closes the door, pulls down the curtain on her and thinks that he has not touched her and she also confirms his words; if she must count waiting period. He (the Imam) said, ‘No, it is not necessary.’ I then asked, ‘One thing is near the thing.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘If fluid is discharged she must count the waiting period but if they are trusted then their words are accepted.’”


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