5. Regarding amir al-momineen (asws) and the determined ones (ul al-azam prophetsas, which of them is more knowledgeable?

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حَدَّثَنَا الْيَقْطِينِيُّ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عُمَرَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ السَّمَّانِ قَالَ: قَالَ لِي أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ ع يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ مَا تَقُولُ الشِّيعَةُ فِي عَلِيٍّ وَ مُوسَى وَ عِيسَى ع قَالَ قُلْتُ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ وَ مِنْ أَيِّ حَالاتٍ تَسْأَلُنِي قَالَ أَسْأَلُكَ عَنِ الْعِلْمِ فَأَمَّا الْفَضْلُ فَهُمْ سَوَاءٌ قَالَ قُلْتُ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ فَمَا عَسَى أَقُولُ فِيهِمْ فَقَالَ هُوَ وَ اللَّهِ أَعْلَمُ مِنْهَا ثُمَّ قَالَ يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ أَ لَيْسَ يَقُولُونَ إِنَّ لِعَلِيٍّ مَا لِلرَّسُولِ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ قَالَ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ فَخَاصِمْهُمْ فِيهِ قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ تَبَارَكَ وَ تَعَالَى قَالَ لِمُوسَى ع‏ وَ كَتَبْنا لَهُ فِي الْأَلْواحِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ فَأَعْلَمَنَا أَنَّهُ لَمْ يُبَيِّنْ لَهُ الْأَمْرَ كُلَّهُ وَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَ تَعَالَى لِمُحَمَّدٍ ص‏ وَ جِئْنا بِكَ عَلى‏ هؤُلاءِ شَهِيداً وَ نَزَّلْنا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتابَ تِبْياناً لِكُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ.


1. It is narrated to us by Al Yaqteeny, from Muhammad Bin Umar, from Abdullah Bin Al Waleed Al Samman who said, ‘Abu Ja’far (a.s.) said to me: ‘O Abdullah! What are the Shias saying regarding Ali (a.s.), and Musa (as) and Isa (as)?’ I said, ‘May I be sacrificed for you (a.s.)! And which of the states are you (a.s.) asked me?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘I (a.s.) am asking you (a.s.) about the knowledge. As for the merit, so they (as) are equal’. I said, ‘May I be sacrificed for you (a.s.)! What should I be saying regarding them (as)?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘By Allah (azwj)! He (a.s.) is more knowledgeable than both of them (as)’. Then he (a.s.) said: ‘O Abdullah (a.s.)! Aren’t they (Shias) saying that for Ali (a.s.) is what knowledge was for the Rasool (saww)?’ I said, ‘Yes’. He (a.s.) said: ‘Dispute them regarding it. Allah (azwj) Blessed and Exalted Said to Musa (as): And We Prescribed to him in the Tablets, Advice from all things [7:145]. Thus, we know that He (azwj) did not Explain to him (as) all of the matter. And Allah (azwj) Blessed and Exalted Said to Muhammad (saww): and We shall Come with you as a witness upon these (witnesses). And We Revealed the Book unto you as a clarification of all things, [16:89]’’.




حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ عَنْ حَمْدَانَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ النَّيْشَابُورِيِ‏ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ الْيَمَانِيِّ عَنْ مُسْلِمِ بْنِ الْحَجَّاجِ عَنْ يُوسُفَ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ عُلْوَانَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ: إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَلَقَ أُولِي الْعَزْمِ مِنَ الرُّسُلِ وَ فَضَّلَهُمْ بِالْعِلْمِ وَ أَوْرَثَنَا عِلْمَهُمْ وَ فَضَّلَهُمْ وَ فَضَّلَنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِي عِلْمِهِمْ وَ عِلْمِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ص مَا لَمْ يَعْلَمُوا وَ عَلِمْنَا عِلْمَ الرَّسُولِ ص وَ عِلْمَهُمْ.


2. It is narrated to us by Ali Bin Muhammad Bin Sa’ad, from Hamdan Bin Muhammad Bin Suleyman Al Neyshapuri, from Abdullah Bin Muhammad Al Yamami, from Muslim Bin Al Hajjaj, from Yusuf, from Al Husayn Bin Ulwan, ‘From Abu Abdullah (a.s.) having said: ‘Allah (azwj) Created the Determined ones from the Rasool-Allah (saww), and merited them with the knowledge, and we (a.s.) inherited their (as) knowledge, and we (a.s.) are merited upon them (as) regarding their (as) knowledge, and knowledge of Rasool-Allah (saww), and what they (as) did not know, and we (a.s.) know knowledge of the Rasool (saww) and their (as) knowledge (as well)’’.




حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عِيسَى بْنِ عُبَيْدٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عُمَرَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ وَلِيدٍ السَّمَّانِ قَالَ: قَالَ لِي أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ ع يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ مَا تَقُولُ الشِّيعَةُ فِي عَلِيٍّ ع وَ مُوسَى وَ عِيسَى قَالَ قُلْتُ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ وَ مِنْ أَيِّ حَالاتٍ تَسْأَلُنِي قَالَ أَسْأَلُكَ عَنِ الْعِلْمِ فَأَمَّا الْفَضْلُ فَهُمْ سَوَاءٌ قَالَ قُلْتُ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ فَمَا عَسَى أَقُولُ فِيهِمْ فَقَالَ هُوَ وَ اللَّهِ أَعْلَمُ مِنْهُمَا ثُمَّ قَالَ يَا عَبْدَ اللَّهِ أَ لَيْسَ يَقُولُونَ إِنَّ لِعَلِيٍّ ع مَا لِلرَّسُولِ مِنَ الْعِلْمِ قَالَ قُلْتُ بَلَى قَالَ فَخَاصِمْهُمْ فِيهِ قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ تَبَارَكَ وَ تَعَالَى قَالَ لِمُوسَى‏ وَ كَتَبْنا لَهُ فِي الْأَلْواحِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ فَأَعْلَمَنَا أَنَّهُ لَمْ يُبَيِّنْ لَهُ الْأَمْرَ كُلَّهُ وَ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَ تَعَالَى لِمُحَمَّدٍ ص‏ وَ جِئْنا بِكَ شَهِيداً عَلى‏ هؤُلاءِ وَ نَزَّلْنا عَلَيْكَ الْكِتابَ تِبْياناً لِكُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ.


3. It is narrated to us by Muhammad Bin Isa Bin Ubeyd, from Muhammad Bin Umar, from Abdullah Bin Waleed Al Samman who said, ‘Abu Ja’far (a.s.) said to me: ‘O Abdullah! What the Shias say regarding Ali (a.s.) and Musa (as) and Isa (as)?’ He (the narrator) said, ‘I said, ‘May I be sacrificed for you (a.s.)! And from which of the situations are you (a.s.) asking me?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘I (a.s.) am asking you about the knowledge. As for the merit, so they (as) are equal’. I said, ‘May I be sacrificed for you (a.s.)! So, what should I be saying regarding them (as)?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘By Allah (azwj)! He (a.s.) is more knowledgeable than them (as)’. Then he (a.s.) said: ‘O Abdullah! Aren’t they saying that from the knowledge, for Ali (a.s.) is what is for the Rasool (saww)?’ I said, ‘Yes’. He (a.s.) said: ‘Then dispute with them regarding it’. He (a.s.) said: ‘Allah (azwj) Blessed and Exalted Said to Musa (as): And We Prescribed to him in the Tablets, Advice from all things [7:145], so we know that all of the matters were not explained to him (as). And Allah (azwj) Blessed and Exalted Said to Muhammad (saww): and We shall Come with you as a witness upon these (witnesses). And We Revealed the Book unto you as a clarification of all things, [16:89]’’.




حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ شُعَيْبٍ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ إِسْمَاعِيلَ عَنْ بَعْضِ رِجَالِهِ قَالَ: قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع لِرَجُلٍ تَمَصُّونَ الثِّمَادَ وَ تَدَعُونَ النَّهَرَ الْأَعْظَمَ‏ فَقَالَ الرَّجُلُ مَا تَعْنِي بِهَذَا يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ فَقَالَ عِلْمُ النَّبِيِّ ص عِلْمُ النَّبِيِّينَ بِأَسْرِهِ وَ أَوْحَى اللَّهُ إِلَى مُحَمَّدٍ ص فَجَعَلَهُ مُحَمَّدٌ عِنْدَ عَلِيٍّ ع فَقَالَ لَهُ الرَّجُلُ فَعَلِيٌّ أَعْلَمُ أَوْ بَعْضُ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ فَنَظَرَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع إِلَى بَعْضِ أَصْحَابِهِ فَقَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَفْتَحُ مَسَامِعَ مَنْ يَشَاءُ أَقُولُ لَهُ إِنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ص جَعَلَ ذَلِكَ كُلَّهُ عِنْدَ عَلِيٍّ ع فَيَقُولُ عَلِيٌّ ع أَعْلَمُ أَوْ بَعْضُ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ.


4. It is narrated to us by Ismail Bin Shuayb, from Ali Bin Ismail, from one of his mean who said, Abu Abdullah (a.s.) said to a man: ‘You are sucking the drop and are leaving the great river’. The man said, ‘What is the meaning of this, O son (a.s.) of Rasool-Allah (saww)?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘Knowledge of the Prophet (saww) is knowledge of (all) the Prophets (as), and Allah (azwj) Revealed to Muhammad (saww), and Muhammad (saww) made it to be with Ali (a.s.)’. The man said to him (a.s.), ‘So, is Ali (a.s.) more knowledgeable or one of the Prophets (as)?’ Abu Abdullah (a.s.) looked at one of his (a.s.) companions and said: ‘Allah (azwj) Opens the hearing of the ones He (azwj) so Desires to. I (a.s.) said to him that Rasool-Allah (saww) made all of that to be with Ali (a.s.), and he is saying (asking) whether Ali (a.s.) is more knowledgeable or one of the Prophets (as)?’’.




حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ حَمْدَانَ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ‏ عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ الْيَمَانِيِّ عَنْ مُسْلِمِ بْنِ الْحَجَّاجِ عَنْ يُونُسَ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ عُلْوَانَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ: إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَلَقَ‏ أُولِي الْعَزْمِ مِنَ الرُّسُلِ وَ فَضَّلَهُمْ بِالْعِلْمِ وَ أَوْرَثَنَا عِلْمَهُمْ وَ فَضَّلَنَا عَلَيْهِمْ فِي عِلْمِهِمْ‏ وَ عَلَّمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ ص مَا لَمْ يَعْلَمُوا وَ عَلَّمَنَا عِلْمَ الرَّسُولِ وَ عِلْمَهُمْ وَ أُمَنَاءُ شِيعَتِنَا أَفْضَلُهُمْ أَيْنَ مَا كُنَّا فَشِيعَتُنَا مَعَنَا.


5. It is narrated to us by Ali Bin Muhammad Bin Saeed, from Hamdan Bin Suleyman, from Ubeydullah Bin Muhammad al yamani, from Muslim Bin Al Hajjaj, from Yunus, from Al Husayn Bin Ulwan, ‘From Abu Abdullah (a.s.) having said: ‘Allah (azwj) Created the Determined Ones (Ul Al-Azam) from the Rasools (as) and Graced them with the knowledge, and we (a.s.) inherited their (as) knowledge, and He (azwj) Merited us (a.s.) upon them (as) regarding their (as) knowledge, and Taught Rasool-Allah (saww) what they (as) did not know, and Taught us (a.s.) knowledge of the Rasool (as) and their (as) knowledge, and entrusted our (a.s.) Shias its superior. Wherever we (a.s.) would be, our (a.s.) Shias would be with us (a.s.).’’




حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ الْبَرْقِيِّ عَنْ رَجُلٍ مِنَ الْكُوفِيِّينَ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عُمَرَ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ قَالَ قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع‏ مَا يَقُولُ أَصْحَابُكَ فِي أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع وَ عِيسَى وَ مُوسَى أَنَّهُمْ أَعْلَمُ قَالَ قُلْتُ مَا يُقَدِّمُونَ عَلَى أُولِي الْعَزْمِ أَحَداً قَالَ أَمَا إِنَّكَ لَوْ حَاجَجْتَهُمْ بِكِتَابِ اللَّهِ لَحَجَجْتَهُمْ قَالَ قُلْتُ وَ أَيْنَ هَذَا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ قَالَ فِي مُوسَى‏ وَ كَتَبْنا لَهُ فِي الْأَلْواحِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‏ءٍ مَوْعِظَةً وَ لَمْ يَقُلْ كُلَّ شَيْ‏ءٍ وَ قَالَ فِي عِيسَى‏ وَ لِأُبَيِّنَ لَكُمْ بَعْضَ الَّذِي تَخْتَلِفُونَ فِيهِ‏ وَ لَمْ يَقُلْ كُلَّ شَيْ‏ءٍ وَ قَالَ فِي صَاحِبِكُمْ‏ كَفى‏ بِاللَّهِ شَهِيداً بَيْنِي وَ بَيْنَكُمْ وَ مَنْ عِنْدَهُ عِلْمُ الْكِتابِ‏.


6. It is narrated to us by Ahmad Bin Muhammad, from Al Barqy, from a man from Al Kufeyn, from Muhammad Bin Umar, from Abdullah Bin Al Waleed who said, ‘Abu Abdullah (a.s.) said: ‘What are your companions saying regarding Amir Al Momineen (a.s.) and Isa (as) and Musa (as), which of them (as) is more knowledgeable?’ He (the narrator) said, ‘I said, ‘They are not advancing anyone over the Determines One (as)’. He (a.s.) said: ‘But you, if you were to argue with them by the Book of Allah (azwj), would prove it to them’. I said, ‘And where is this in the Book of Allah (azwj)?’ He (a.s.) said: ‘Allah (azwj) Said regarding Musa (as): And We Prescribed to him in the Tablets, Advice from all things [7:145], and did not Say ‘All things’. And He (azwj) Said regarding Isa (as): and to clarify for you part of which you are differing in, [43:63], and did not say ‘all things’, and He (azwj) Said regarding your Master (saww): Say: ‘I suffice with Allah as a Witness between me and you, and one with whom is Knowledge of the Book [13:43]’’.